Comments on: Ajax and Flex Data Loading Benchmarks http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/ Rich Internet Applications | Flex | Adobe AIR | Java | Open Source | Linux | Enterprise Software | Cloud Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Learning Flex – Lesson 18, Accessing Server Side Objects « M@ Blog http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-158051 Learning Flex – Lesson 18, Accessing Server Side Objects « M@ Blog Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:58:52 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-158051 [...] (AMF) to communicate between server and presentation layer. This means it’s faster (see James Ward’s post on this). Another advantage is the capability to pass native objects directly which saves you from [...] [...] (AMF) to communicate between server and presentation layer. This means it’s faster (see James Ward’s post on this). Another advantage is the capability to pass native objects directly which saves you from [...]

]]> By: Zend Con 2009 session files | Wade Arnold http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-158035 Zend Con 2009 session files | Wade Arnold Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:08:44 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-158035 [...] James Ward Census http://www.jamesward.com/blog/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/ [...] [...] James Ward Census http://www.jamesward.com/blog/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/ [...]

]]> By: Building UIs on Top of Very Large Database Tables « Business Intelligence, Flex and China http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-157906 Building UIs on Top of Very Large Database Tables « Business Intelligence, Flex and China Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:54:50 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-157906 [...] Adobe put together this benchmark comparing AJAX and Flex using various transport technologies.  http://www.jamesward.com/blog/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/ It’s quite interesting but I think if you implement SQL based paging, sorting and filtering, [...] [...] Adobe put together this benchmark comparing AJAX and Flex using various transport technologies.  http://www.jamesward.com/blog/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/ It’s quite interesting but I think if you implement SQL based paging, sorting and filtering, [...]

]]> By: James Ward http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-157084 James Ward Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:53:04 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-157084 Hi Jason, Firefox 3 broke something with the iFrames. So clicking on the "Output" pane will launch the test. Let me know if that helps. -James Hi Jason,

Firefox 3 broke something with the iFrames. So clicking on the “Output” pane will launch the test.

Let me know if that helps.

-James

]]> By: Jason http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-157081 Jason Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:42:29 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-157081 Hi James! Can you take a look at the Data you are using for your benchmark tool? It appears not to be bring back any data. I would love to show this to some of my colleagues. Thanks! Hi James!

Can you take a look at the Data you are using for your benchmark tool? It appears not to be bring back any data. I would love to show this to some of my colleagues.

Thanks!

]]> By: Vlad G http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-156828 Vlad G Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:11:23 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-156828 Hi James! If you are interested, try also a modification to Flex (AS3) JSON parser for improved strings parsing speed. See following cookbook entry, solution 2: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/communityengine/index.cfm?event=showdetails&productId=2&postId=13226&loc=en_US Thanks for this great comparison tool! Hi James!

If you are interested, try also a modification to Flex (AS3) JSON parser for improved strings parsing speed. See following cookbook entry, solution 2:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/communityengine/index.cfm?event=showdetails&productId=2&postId=13226&loc=en_US

Thanks for this great comparison tool!

]]> By: Uxebu.com - JavaScript addicts » dojo.beer(2) and Webmontag Munich http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-135188 Uxebu.com - JavaScript addicts » dojo.beer(2) and Webmontag Munich Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:48:09 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-135188 [...] Mihai showed some interesting slides about a comparison James Ward made with his Census application. He shows the speed improvements of AMF in favour of JSON communication when transferring 5000 rows and more. This is a very special use case, I rather see the latest usability and interaction patterns stearing into the direction of loading just the data on demand that are really required. In most cases this big number of data is also hard for users to grasp. There is charting and some visual presentations that might require this load of data, but the optimization on the server will probably serve a better user experience here. An interesting read is Jared Jurkiewicz blog article about comparing these numbers with Dojo today, as the comparison of James Ward was made in April 2007. [...] [...] Mihai showed some interesting slides about a comparison James Ward made with his Census application. He shows the speed improvements of AMF in favour of JSON communication when transferring 5000 rows and more. This is a very special use case, I rather see the latest usability and interaction patterns stearing into the direction of loading just the data on demand that are really required. In most cases this big number of data is also hard for users to grasp. There is charting and some visual presentations that might require this load of data, but the optimization on the server will probably serve a better user experience here. An interesting read is Jared Jurkiewicz blog article about comparing these numbers with Dojo today, as the comparison of James Ward was made in April 2007. [...]

]]> By: James Ward http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-133554 James Ward Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:56:21 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-133554 Hi Joey, I'm saying that text is an inefficient serialization technology. When possible use binary serialization technologies like AMF. -James Hi Joey,

I’m saying that text is an inefficient serialization technology. When possible use binary serialization technologies like AMF.

-James

]]> By: Joey http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-133553 Joey Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:14:25 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-133553 Hi James, Can you clarify the following statement from your piece above..."If you control both sides of the wire in your application, then there is rarely a good reason to serialize and deserialize text." Are you saying that the best way to transfer data (text), when you control a webservices and Flex, is to query the data source, build the object server-side, and then transfer the object or an array of objects to Flex, which is then used to build the client-side objects in Flex for databinding? If so, when would you not use this method? Hi James,
Can you clarify the following statement from your piece above…”If you control both sides of the wire in your application, then there is rarely a good reason to serialize and deserialize text.”

Are you saying that the best way to transfer data (text), when you control a webservices and Flex, is to query the data source, build the object server-side, and then transfer the object or an array of objects to Flex, which is then used to build the client-side objects in Flex for databinding? If so, when would you not use this method?

]]> By: Thomas http://www.jamesward.com/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/comment-page-2/#comment-133423 Thomas Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:52:07 +0000 http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2007/04/30/ajax-and-flex-data-loading-benchmarks/#comment-133423 <a href="#comment-133343" rel="nofollow">@James Ward</a> No reason to be sorry. I'm just looking forward to seeing it. Thanks for answering. @James Ward
No reason to be sorry. I’m just looking forward to seeing it.
Thanks for answering.

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